
Use of PI3K Inhibitors in Relapsed Follicular Lymphoma
Let’s talk about copanlisib first. So, copanlisib was first approved for the treatment, just recently approved for the treatment of 2-prior-therapy follicular lymphoma. Scott, what are the data there, and how are you using this?
If you actually looked, the number of cycles was a little bit shorter with copanlisib, so there are about 6 months of treatment. And so it has its own unique pros and cons, and it’s great to have 3 potential options. It’s certainly, like Nathan said, in the majority of people that are getting PI3K, those early relapsers, for whom I’m looking at it as a bridge. They’re not going to be on this for years. This is really how do I get them in a better place for clinical trial, whether it’s me bringing CAR [chimeric antigen receptor] T for these patients. And so it’s an important tool in our toolbox, but it’s unlikely to change up-front therapy and that sort of thing.
Ian W. Flinn, MD, PhD: Right. It might be a ways before we can figure out how to give this in frontline. But it does look like it works relatively equally, so for all the different risk groups you can think of. And then the CHRONOS-1 study was in a double-refractory patient population. But, when you look at those groups, it seems similar?
Ian W. Flinn, MD, PhD: Right. They’re pretty transitory, the hyperglycemia and the hypertension tension, although maybe it would be a concern in someone who already has those issues. I’m taken by the alpha isoform. I’m not so sure that follicular lymphoma is the disease for which inhibiting the alpha isoform is the most—makes the most difference. Maybe in mantle cell—we have…laboratory data at least that show us that in mantle cell lymphoma, there’s an escape mechanism through the alpha isoform. You know, we talked earlier about IV versus [subcutaneous] rituximab. Now we have an IV PI3-kinase inhibitor. What do you think about that?
But, in the short term, I think in patients who again are on the third line of therapy, I think if you get an effective regimen and the adverse effect profile is not too tough, IV—you can deliver IV without a problem. The problem is when you start to get into these kind of extended dosing patterns. Then I think the delivery starts to become more relevant.
Ian W. Flinn, MD, PhD: Yeah. So I guess the new kid on the block is duvelisib. So duvelisib, as I mentioned earlier, is an inhibitor of the delta and gamma isoform. It is an oral drug. And like idelalisib, it was tested in a double-refractory patient population, meaning patients that were refractory to both chemotherapy and rituximab. And so I think it had relatively similar adverse event profiles that we’ve seen with the other class of drugs. It’s not clear, I think, from that study alone, at least, whether inhibiting the gamma isoform changes things. I think the thing that’s interesting to me at least is that with duvelisib and inhibiting the gamma isoform, that maybe there are data that show you can treat T-cell lymphomas and other diseases, so maybe it will make an important contribution there. It’s now, of course, approved for the patients like the others with 2 prior lines of therapy—so a lot of treatment options for this patient population.
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